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Does the runner from third score when double play is recorded for runner on first leaving early?

by Mark C
(Lincoln, CA)

Run Does Not Count

Run Does Not Count

Mark asked: There is a runner on first and third with one out.

The ball is hit to center field and both runners tag. The runner at first left early and was called out when the center fielder threw to first base.

Even though the third base runner crossed home plate before the first base runner was called out for leaving early, does the run count?


Rick answered: Mark, thank you for your question.

Rule 5.08 How A Team Scores

a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning.

Exception: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3)by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

The play described is one continuous play, which generated a inning ending double play, where the runner from first was forced out on the center fielders throw to first base.

Out number three, inning over, no run scored.

Guessing this one created a lot of discussion at the time.

Yours in baseball,

Rick

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Jul 07, 2019
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Appeal play reference NEW
by: Anonymous

https://www.baseball-rules.com/FAQs.htm

Section on Appeals:

Example:
PLAY: Runners at first and third with 1 out. The batter pops-up a bunt attempt. The pitcher catches the ball for the second out. Both runners left without retouching. The pitcher throws to first base before R1 can return, which is the third out. R3 crossed the plate before the out at first.
Ruling: If the defense does nothing and leaves the field, R3's run counts. If the defense makes an appeal at third on R3 before the last defensive player crosses the foul line, R3 is the third out and the run is canceled. This is called "an apparent fourth out."

Jul 07, 2019
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Not a force play NEW
by: Anonymous

Runner leaving early on a tag is an appeal play, not a force play. Run scores.

Apr 13, 2018
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Not a force?
by: Anonymous

I wrote that it's not a force in having to go back to a base to tag up.

Apr 12, 2018
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run counts
by: Anonymous

wrong

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