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Hit or Fielder's choice?

Karla asked: Runner on second, no other base runners. Batter hits a high chopper between short and third. The pitcher runs over and fields the play cleanly.

Runner on second does not move but pitcher looks at him. He decides to hold ball to assure runner stays on second. No attempt made to throw ball.. Batter safe.

Hit or fielders choice?

Rick answered: Karla, thank you for your question.

Rule 9-3 Player's Batting Record

Art 2-2, A basehit is credited to a batter when he advances to first base safely: Base hits include any fair hit which cannot be fielded in time to throw out or tag out a batter/runner or any other runner when he is being forced to advance. Illistrations are: ball is stopped or checked by a fielder in motion who cannot recover in time, or ball moves too slowly, or ball is hit with such force to a fielder that neither he nor an assisting fielder can handle it.

c. because of a fielder's choice (2-14-1) when a fielder attempts to put out another runner but is unsuccessful and the scorer believes the batter/runner would have reached first base even with perfect fielding.

Rule 2-14- Fielders Choice
Art 1: A fielder's choice is the act of a fielder with a live ball, who elects to throw for an attempted putout or to retire unassisted any runner or batter/runner, thus permitting the advance of another runner(s). The scorer decides whether the batter is credited with a safe hit or an extra base hit in accordance with 9-2-2, 9-3-3.

Scorers use the term in the following ways:

a. to indicate the advance of the batter/runner who takes one or more bases when a fielder who handles his batted ball plays on a preceeding runner.

b. to indicate the advance of a runner(other than by stolen base or error) while a fielder is trying to put out another runner; and

c. to indicate the advance of a runner due to the defensive teams refusal to play on him ( an undefended steal).

For the scorer to give the batter a hit he would have to believe that the fielder had no possibility of getting the batter out if he made a play on him.

If he had plenty of time, he just chose to keep the runner at second and not risk his advancing on the throw to first, much like defensive indifference when a play is not made on a runner stealing a base because that runner will be unconsequential at that point in the game, it would be a fielder's choice.

All about scorer's decision on whether the fielder could have gotten the runner out or not.

Yours in baseball,

Rick

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Oct 20, 2019
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Fielders choise or a hit
by: Anonymous

Rick - still some confusion about a play in today's softball game.......Runner on first - batter gets a clean single to the outfield but alert outfielder gets a force out on the runner going from 1st to 2nd. The hitter still gets a hit, correct?

Sep 03, 2019
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Base Hit? NEW
by: Michael Tucci

Rick - still some confusion about a play in today's softball game.......Runner on first - batter gets a clean single to the outfield but alert outfielder gets a force out on the runner going from 1st to 2nd. The hitter still gets a hit, correct?

May 31, 2019
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Reply NEW
by: Anonymous

Very well explained. I agree 100%

Apr 17, 2019
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hit or feeder choice
by: Anonymous

runner at 3 batter bunts and picter throw home but the runners safe feeder choice or hit credit to batter

Jun 19, 2018
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hit or fielder’s choice
by: Anonymous

Slightly different scenario...runner on second no out, batter hits a sharp ball to third that 3B has no chance to field. Ball hits the 3B’s foot and is rediected to short. The batter reaches 1B before the SS fields the ball but the runner on 2B decides that he can beat the richoted ball and is subsequently theown out at third, all why batter is watching from 1B. Hit or FC?

May 31, 2018
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Hit or error - 1st and 2nd occupied
by: Anonymous

Runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs. Batter hits ball deep into the hole at SS but fielded cleanly. Player who started at second attempts to round 3rd and score but is thrown out at home 6-2 for the 3rd out. Is the batter credited with a hit because he and all runners advanced a base safely before lead runner thrown out trying to score - or is the play continuous thereby ruling the "hit" as a FC?

Jul 20, 2017
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Fielders choice or hit
by: Anonymous

There is a runner on first base with two outs. The batter hits a routine ground ball to the shortstop who fields it cleanly and looks to through the ball to second base but the second baseman doesn't cover the bag for some reason. So the shortstop then turns and throws to first base and the batter beats the throw. Is that a fielders choice or hit?

Jul 20, 2017
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Explain this
by: Anonymous

Runners at 1st and 2nd. Batter hits a ball to CF the base runner at 2nd misjudged the ball CF throws his out at 3rd. The scorekeeper in the game called this a fielders choice. Clearly is a hit by the batter. This is right or wrong. I said it should have been a hit

May 22, 2017
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Fielders choice or hit?
by: Frank

Runners on 1st & 2nd. Ball is hit in the air to CF who does not make the catch but short hops the ball. CF throws to 2B but not in time to get the force. 2B throws to third and gets the force there.
Is the batter credited with a hit and the put out scored 4-5?

May 17, 2017
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Bases loaded
by: Angelo

If bases are loaded and defense decided to throw home but runners are safe is it hit or FC??

Mar 27, 2017
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Fielders choice or hit?
by: Rick, theoleballgame

Mike: The batter is credited with a single, the runner is out, 8-2.

Should the batter have not yet reached first base prior to the out, he would not get credit for the base hit, he would become a fielders choice.



Yours in baseball,

Rick

Mar 25, 2017
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Feeders choice or hit
by: Mike

What if there is 2 outs and runner on secound and batter hits a single up the middle but the center fielder throws out the runner at home for 3rd out.is the batter credited with hit or fielder's choice?

Jan 19, 2014
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Fielders choice still?
by: Anonymous

What if the ball is bunted to pitcher while runner is on second and pitcher looks back runner on second then attempts to throw to first but there is no. Defensive player there in time e.g. 1st base moved forward to cover bunt and could not get back in time and 2nd was covering 2nd base?

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